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1 researchok  Fri, Sep 23, 2011 3:07:08pm

Bad idea.

Look Homeward Angel, a great and highly regarded Americal novel by Thomas Wolfe fell out of favor because of PC

2 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 23, 2011 3:08:45pm

Conrad, Kipling--you're next.

3 Bob Levin  Fri, Sep 23, 2011 3:18:13pm

It's an anti-racist book, the first anti-racist book.

4 Bob Levin  Fri, Sep 23, 2011 3:20:25pm

re: #1 researchok

The world greatly misses Max Perkins. We need him now more than ever.

5 sliv_the_eli  Fri, Sep 23, 2011 3:25:55pm

re: #3 Bob Levin

It's an anti-racist book, the first anti-racist book.

This is the inherent problem with political correctness. Setting aside for the moment that literature by definition reflects the times and culture and that one reads literature, at least in part, to gain insight into a time and culture, the fact is that sometimes one needs to shock the conscience in order to bring injustice to light and force the complacent to recognize reality and the need to effect change.

6 Bob Levin  Fri, Sep 23, 2011 4:10:00pm

re: #5 sliv_the_eli

Setting aside for the moment that literature by definition reflects the times and culture and that one reads literature, at least in part, to gain insight into a time and culture,

Yes, let's set this aside. Some literature can do this. This type of literature walks a fine line between insight and Stephen King. That's why we need Max Perkins.

the fact is that sometimes one needs to shock the conscience in order to bring injustice to light and force the complacent to recognize reality and the need to effect change.

But language of Huck Finn wasn't shocking at the time. It was certainly a departure from the staid prose of Hawthorne and the English writers (See Twain's quotes about Jane Austen). What might have been shocking is the simple act of conversation between Huck and Jim, although the Civil War was 20 years past.

If there is any moment of shock in the book, it's when Huck realizes that Jim is a fully developed person, with all spectrum of human feelings--and even though this is contrary to social and religious mores of the time, he (Huck) is perfectly willing to go to hell if that is the price he must pay for his new understanding. Accepting this fate might have been shocking. This moment takes one sentence.

This whole controversy shows that there is difference between what is said and what is meant, and it's important to be able to tell the difference. I don't believe our culture values this skill anymore.

7 Charleston Chew  Fri, Sep 23, 2011 4:41:43pm
Twain scholar Alan Gribben, who is working with NewSouth Books in Alabama to publish a combined volume of the books, said the N-word appears 219 times in "Huck Finn" and four times in "Tom Sawyer."

The fact that Finn contains far more offensive language than Tom Sawyer should give some insight into why Twain wrote it and why it needs to contain offensive language. The satire is deliberately as uncouth as its main character because it equates good manners and polite (white) society with the evil of slavery. It's a naughty story about a naughty boy who does the naughtiest thing of all - free a slave.

8 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Sep 23, 2011 5:27:40pm

The word is offensive not by itself, but in specific contexts. While it is prudent to beep it out if it is said by someone, the dead tree versions should be left alone (masked by ***). This tabooization of the very word - in any form - in the classics is really mind-numbing. Idiots.

9 Decatur Deb  Fri, Sep 23, 2011 5:32:31pm

re: #8 Sergey Romanov

Intent. Context.

10 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Fri, Sep 23, 2011 5:33:31pm

re: #8 Sergey Romanov

I need to amend the above. The word *is* intrinsically offensive, it's the *usage* that is not necessarily offensive in certain contexts, that's my point.

11 wee fury  Fri, Sep 23, 2011 5:56:46pm

I'm offended.


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